Continuing some
further analysis you won't find anywhere else around Tampa Bay, we have some
more data to dissect.
Again, using the Tampa Bay Times Graham Brink's article on our increasing commutes as a starting point, Brink states
Again, using the Tampa Bay Times Graham Brink's article on our increasing commutes as a starting point, Brink states
Pity the 117,000 Tampa Bay workers who spend
at least an hour getting to work and then have to do it again going home.
No joy for those folks
in their commutes, for sure.
But how are those 117,000 workers getting to work?
We can use more of the 2018 ACS Survey data to figure that out, specifically table B08136.
Of those 117,000 taking more than an hour to get work, 108,140 drove and 5,980 took transit. It must be hell to be driving, right?
But how are those 117,000 workers getting to work?
We can use more of the 2018 ACS Survey data to figure that out, specifically table B08136.
Of those 117,000 taking more than an hour to get work, 108,140 drove and 5,980 took transit. It must be hell to be driving, right?
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Percent of drivers and transit riders taking
more than 1 hour travel to work
Source: Calculated from ACS tables B08136 |
But that is only 8.5% of drivers commuting to
work, compared to 31.5% of transit riders taking more than an hour.
Again, another data point confirming that choosing transit over driving increases the likelihood of a long commute.
But don't just the math. What does the Google say? We can compare driving and transit times for a few routes in the Tampa Bay area.
Again, another data point confirming that choosing transit over driving increases the likelihood of a long commute.
But don't just the math. What does the Google say? We can compare driving and transit times for a few routes in the Tampa Bay area.
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From
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To
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Drive
|
Transit
|
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Downtown St. Pete
|
Downtown Tampa
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27m
|
1h 52m
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Downtown Tampa
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USF
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17m
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30m
|
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Brandon
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Downtown Tampa
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18m
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50m
|
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Tampa Airport
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Downtown Tampa
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20m
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51m, 39m
|
|
MacDill AFB
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Brandon
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35m
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1h 55m
|
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Downtown Tampa
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Westchase
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25m
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1h 26m
|
|
Downtown St. Pete
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St. Pete Beach
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16m
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54m
|
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Downtown St. Pete
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Clearwater
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40m
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1h 41m
|
* Travel times from
maps.google.com 2:15 PM on October 25, 2019
Hopefully it is not a surprise that it is faster, and in most cases, substantially faster, to drive these routes than to use transit.
Note these times may vary based upon traffic conditions and transit routes available at that time. For example, is one choses to wait an hour at Tampa Airport, they can take HART route 300 leaving at 3:39 PM or a 39 minute commute compared to a 51 minute ride leaving closer to 2:15 PM. But it's only 20 minutes to drive.
But how do we compare to other municipalities when it comes to commuting?
We are constantly told by our elite thinkers Tampa Bay has among the worst transit systems in the country. We need to be more like Charlotte, NC, where they are spending billions of dollars on expanding light rail and bus transit. Not sure Charlotte is up to the Jetsons, yet, but it has to be better than Tampa Bay, right?
Hopefully it is not a surprise that it is faster, and in most cases, substantially faster, to drive these routes than to use transit.
Note these times may vary based upon traffic conditions and transit routes available at that time. For example, is one choses to wait an hour at Tampa Airport, they can take HART route 300 leaving at 3:39 PM or a 39 minute commute compared to a 51 minute ride leaving closer to 2:15 PM. But it's only 20 minutes to drive.
But how do we compare to other municipalities when it comes to commuting?
We are constantly told by our elite thinkers Tampa Bay has among the worst transit systems in the country. We need to be more like Charlotte, NC, where they are spending billions of dollars on expanding light rail and bus transit. Not sure Charlotte is up to the Jetsons, yet, but it has to be better than Tampa Bay, right?
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Commuting times for driving and transit in
Tampa Bay and Charlotte
Source: Calculated from ACS tables B08136 and B08301 |
It might come to a
surprise for some (but not us), that despite the billions spent on transit in
Charlotte (and more yet to spend), they are not better off in commuting to work
than Tampa Bay, where we have yet to waste billions on transit.
In fact, the Charlotte Observer reported last year Charlotte Area Transit ridership had been losing riders faster than any other large U.S. cities.
In fact, the Charlotte Observer reported last year Charlotte Area Transit ridership had been losing riders faster than any other large U.S. cities.
Across the nation, most big cities are losing
transit riders.
But nowhere is the decline more pronounced
than Charlotte, which is shedding transit passengers faster than any of the
other 50 largest cities, according to data from the Federal Transit Administration.
...
For the last six months, ridership has dropped
by 19 percent. That means nearly 1 in 5 transit riders has left the system —
for now at least.
Read more here:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article209424959.html#storylink=cpy
...
Julie Eiselt, the mayor pro tem, said she
wasn't aware of the large declines. But it isn't enough for her to reconsider
the city's plans to spend as much as $7 billion on more rail lines and bus
service.
Read more here:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article209424959.html#storylink=cpy
Don't look at the
data! Charlotte's commuting to work is getting worse, just like Tampa Bay, and
transit riders are leaving, because its faster to drive.
But Charlotte has billions more to spend, and better yet, they have a plan!
Even Tampa's transit supporters don't take transit.
But Charlotte has billions more to spend, and better yet, they have a plan!
Even Tampa's transit supporters don't take transit.
Pat Kemp [Hillsborough County Commissioner and
HART Board member and transit proponent]
"I would like to ride transit more if I wasn't so busy working on the transit issue. ... It's not very amenable to my kind of schedule. I'm not an 8-to-5 in one place type of person."
"There's no way you can do it. For office workers who have set hours and set places, it works very well…I have to have a vehicle."
"I would like to ride transit more if I wasn't so busy working on the transit issue. ... It's not very amenable to my kind of schedule. I'm not an 8-to-5 in one place type of person."
"There's no way you can do it. For office workers who have set hours and set places, it works very well…I have to have a vehicle."
"I'm in and out of the office all the
time, so it would be really inconvenient for me to use the bus system."
Pat Kemp is just like the other 1.2 million
auto commuters in Tampa Bay whose time is too valuable to wait on transit.
But All For Transportation thinks they have an even better plan to "make commute times better".
But All For Transportation thinks they have an even better plan to "make commute times better".
What is AFT missing in
their "AFT Cafeteria"?
Roads! As we have repeatedly reported, they have no plans for roads. Their plan will not "make commute times better", by not addressing driving and roads, which the vast majority of commuters use, their plans will make commuting worse.
If you want to know what the All For Transportation outcome of spending $7 - 8 billion on transit and billions more everything else except roads in Hillsborough may look like, Charlotte provides a pretty good case study of Hillsborough's future misery.
Roads! As we have repeatedly reported, they have no plans for roads. Their plan will not "make commute times better", by not addressing driving and roads, which the vast majority of commuters use, their plans will make commuting worse.
If you want to know what the All For Transportation outcome of spending $7 - 8 billion on transit and billions more everything else except roads in Hillsborough may look like, Charlotte provides a pretty good case study of Hillsborough's future misery.
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